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ExactaWeather.com sent us over their long range winter weather forecast for the 2011-2012 winter season but first here is a bit about Exacta Weather.

Exacta Weather is a non-profit weather organisation that comprises a team of meteorologists from around the world.

Our long range specialist forecaster James Madden states that there is “a potentially record breaking US winter for 2011-2012 with extremely cold temperatures and exceptional levels of snow”.

James Madden’s forecast is based on major natural factors, including solar activity, and how they impact the weather and climate on Earth. His forecasting techniques have attracted significant attention after correctly forecasting seasonal trends in the UK – and proving the Met Office wrong on three successive occasions, before they decided to scrap seasonal forecasts altogether.

Another extreme winter for many parts of the US

 

US Long Range Winter Weather Forecast 2011-2012

 

The coldest winter in 30 years was recorded across many parts of the US during the 2010-2011 winter. Eastern parts of the US plunged to a record -50F with the Northeast of the US also seeing records broken. Temperatures was also largely below normal averages for New York, Chicago, New Orleans, and Minneapolis. Snowstorms shattered New York City in December 2010 and January 2011 to become the snowiest January ever recorded.

 

So let’s turn to the US winter of 2011/2012.

 

La Niña cools the equatorial seas of the Pacific and was one of the strongest on record during 2010/2011. Less warm air rises during La Niña conditions with a cooling influence on the atmosphere that has big implications on global climate and global weather patterns. The changes in global weather patterns come from air pressure changes in atmospheric cycles called the North Atlantic Oscillation (NOA) and Arctic Oscillation (AO).

 

The latest National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) update suggests neutral conditions ahead, but a negative Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) may yet suggest otherwise. The PDO is a pattern of Pacific climate variance that recently switched to negative (cold) and will remain that way for the next two to three decades. It is likely that La Niña will return more frequently during this time period as a negative PDO results in stronger La Niña (cooling) and weaker El Niño (warming) episodes.

 

Low solar activity is also a primary driver of atmospheric cycles that influence blocking activity patterns/ridges.

 

Our weather models consider all of these factors and are currently showing a particularly harsh winter for many parts of the US during 2011-2012. Large parts of Central and North America will face below average temperatures with above average snowfall throughout this winter, with temperatures in many Eastern and Western parts also showing as below average with above average snowfall amounts.

 

We expect the Pacific Northwest region to experience a very severe winter and the Cascades snowpack is likely to see increased levels due to the negative (cold) phase of PDO. Our weather models are also showing an increased likelihood for major snow events in Northeastern and Midwestern parts of the US throughout December 2011 and January 2012, that could see severe blizzard conditions hit New York City and Chicago.

 

With low solar activity levels, the negative Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), and the general trend for a much colder winter after the onset of last year’s La Niña, this winter could prove to be a record breaker with extremely cold temperatures and exceptional levels of snow for many parts of the US.

 

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208 Comments

  1. Geraldo says:

    global warming

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    • Anonymous says:

      Makes summer and winter more extreme ;)

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    • Anonymous says:

      I hope we see snowmaggeddon like 09-10 winter in woodbridge VA :) but I can’t control the weather but at least half the winter will be cold and snowy,icy,sleet and freezing rain…

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    • Joe B. says:

      Is not caused by man. It will cycle colder again, and warmer, and colder, etc. Fact. The whole global warming hysteria is political. The big money that scientists feast on comes from government grants. There are politicians who leverage disaster for more money and control. Others like Al Gore invested millions in cap and trade clearing house credit exchanges. Let there be a true debate on the issue, PLEASE ! The sun and its incredible output of radiation, magnetism, solar wind, in combination with the earths atmosphere has far more to do with our weather than anything man can do. And the sun’s out put is NOT constant. It varies sharply over long periods of time. Because it goes up and down, the patterns are called cycles, and they cycle over many decades. Hence we get many years where the over all energy is increasing followed by many years where it declines. It plateaus at times in between. If you have been alive at least 40 years, as I have, can you honestly say the weather is much different today than it was at any other point in your life. It cycles around again and again.

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      • Anonymous says:

        I’m so glad I’m not the only one that feels this way. Cycles people Cycles. ;)

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        • Anonymous says:

          Actually, I am over 40 years of age, and the weather has changed dramatically. We used to get severe storms with large accumulations of snow. Now we still get the cold weather from time to time, but not the quantity of snowfall as in the past. In the last 35 years there has been a sermountable difference..

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          • Anonymous says:

            I guess it depends on what part of the country (world) you are in, but as far as “in general”, that’s not true. We often forget about all the blizzards and record heat waves of the past (e.g Blizzards of 1888, 1913, 1947, 1967, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1991, 1993, 1996, 1999, 2007, 2010, 2011.) The pattern that I have seen concerning weather is this: We tend to forget major events as the years go by, then we focus on recent events and get ourselves worked up that something is “getting worse”. When in fact, it may actually be better than it was in the past. But we don’t see it. Look at the hurricanes and heat waves and blizzards. There were blizzards, hurricanes and heat waves 100+ years ago that killed many more people than the modern ones we focus on.

        • Anonymous says:

          It IS a cycle, but it is also important to recognize that it can be exacerbated or accelerated by man. Obviously, we DO affect the environment. And it is also equally important to realize that we have not called it “global warming” in many years. It has been altered to “climate change,” which is both appropriate and correct. Let’s not be ignorant and pretend we have no impact.

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          • Annonymous-Ann Arbor, MI says:

            Global warming is a money scam and a “feel good/I care more than you” attitude. Climate is 99.99999% nature. Man is a miniscule part of the equation. The name change and repositioning from global warming to global climate change woke a lot of people up to the facts not holding water. Now the socialist/environmentalists are struggling to hold on.

          • anonymous says:

            People who do not believe humans cannot negatively impact the climate are choosing to remain ignorant so they can continue a lifestyle of consumption that is not limited by accountability.

      • Rand says:

        I’ve been around nearly 60 years, and can remember when scientists in the 1970s were fussing about a coming ice age, triggered by a real and significant cooling. People were discussing what could be done to prevent developing glaciers. In 1983, there was an article by a couple of scientists that stated that increasing levels of CO2 would cause the planet to warm, icecaps to melt, and bring disastrous worldwide droughts. Shortly after they released their report, they pulled it back, saying that they had erred on their calculations and there was no Greenhouse effect underway. By that time, the environmentalists had jumped on the bandwagon and were screaming about how we were going to have to rein in technology before we killed the planet. Within the space of a couple of years, we had gone from people worrying about suffering under a new ice age, to people hysterically claiming that man was killing the planet by overheating it with CO2. “Learned” environmental scientists produced models that “showed conclusively” that we were well on our way to a planetary Armageddon, where all regions of the world would experience rapidly increasing heat, less rain, severe droughts, rapidly rising ocean levels. It didn’t happen. Rather than throw out their models and come up with a different explanation for the observed weather (as should be done using the scientific process), they made adjustments to their models and changed observed data to fit their beliefs. When it became obvious that the weather was not even coming close to what they predicted would happen in their modified models, they started claiming that global warming would cause all sorts of wild weather swings, from droughts to floods, to hurricanes, to record snowfall. When it became apparent that the entire globe was cooling, they stopped calling it global warming and called it man-caused climate change.

        I come from a scientific background, and I was taught that you made observations, came up with hypothesis to explain the observations, developed a model to test your hypothesis, and collected data to compare against model expectations. If the data verified your theory, you refined your model and possibly published your conclusions. If the data didn’t verify your model, then your hypothesis was invalid, your threw your theory out the window, and tried to come up with a different explanation for your observations. These so-called scientists have made their theories into a religion and have made so many wildly incorrect forecasts that they have lost all credibility with me.

        I recently came across an old book about climate change written in the late 1960s. It examined natural causes related to climate change, such as the change in eccentricity of the earth’s orbit around the sun, the tilt of the earth, the normal 12-yr solar cycle, and much longer-term observed solar cycles. It accurately recreated the observed temperature variations of the distant past, and showed the current decrease in temperature taking place in the 1960s. The book carried the trend a hundred years into the future and predicted that the cooling would continue into the late 1970s, at which point it would abruptly began warming. The period of warming would end by the early 2000s, when it would drop into a cooling period much worse than the cooling of the 1940s to 1970s. Seems to me they had a better handle on the climate change than these environmental “scientists” ever had.

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        • scott says:

          Your comments are in my opinion , the most accurate opinion of what is happening.I saved your words on my pc and labeled it “the truth as far as I’m concerned.”

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        • John says:

          Amazing. So alteration to a hypothesis is not permitted, the whole thing needs to be scrapped? I suppose that E=MC^2 needs to be entirely scrapped, with the recent evidence of faster than light speeds.
          (http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-faster-light-finding-still-holds-180737160.html)

          Please cite actual sources (the studies you reference/anonymous scientists/’old book’) for your argument; if you are from a ‘scientific background’, you should already realize that as a requirement to allow review and examination of the sources from which you draw your conclusions, rather than referring to nebulous ‘scientists’. It makes you come across as just yet another someone making up yet more un-based BS like the hollow-heads on Fox News.

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        • Cody says:

          Hey what is the name of that book?

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        • Anonymous says:

          I have been around for exacty 60 years and have been an avid follower of the weather. This is the most accurate assessment of the weather I have seen in my lifetime. Keep bringing on the cold weather. This makes folks skeptacle of the global warming hoax. They can see it with their own eyes.
          My children (already skeptics) and grandchildren will look back at us and ask themselves what kind of idiots we were to get behind this flawed theory.
          Check out the web sites of the major ski areas in North America. Alta having record amounts of snow for the last few years. 723″ last year. Wow that global warming is just ruining skiing and winter sports in general.

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        • Karen Koop says:

          Very well spoken my friend…God Bless You for your well written article!!

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      • Charles says:

        I’ve been around >60 :-) years and what I observe of all the comments begging to ignore, to denigrate, or deny is that they all derive of one observation, that there has been a demonstrated inability currently to develop a computer generated model that produces accurate outcomes of two interrelated macro fluid systems, the world ocean and the planetary atmosphere,

        Cycles, you say cycles, the following is an immutable cycle,
        http://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/home/index.php

        We ignore this reality at peril to our offspring, isn’t this our ultimate responsibility in consideration of things that occur on geologic time lines?

        We ignore the relation of atmospheric CO2, our carbon based economy, the inevitable decline of the carbon resources at our peril. We can boast vindication, claim nothing is going on that has not always been going on, you say cycles cycling as they have since time began, and you claim this, again, at our peril.
        We make indictments of reactionary hysteria over observed warming and say that is now disproven, the science now shows cooling, but gotcha logic ignores and overlooks, the competing planetary system, their complex feedback mechanisms and a fundamental reality of fluid systems added heat = >volatility.

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      • Anonymous says:

        well said

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      • Al Gore says:

        I have been alive for more than 40 years and also realize Man’s impact on the climate like most other people on this planet. You can choose to go with conspiracy theories about scientists wanting grants for Global Warming if you’d like, but the fact remains this is reality. The earth cycles and has it’s ups and downs, but man is destroying this planet and we need to change our habbits to preserve life for our future. Please just keep watching your Fox news and try to stay off of the internet as you are only making yourself look like an idiot.

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        • Ben says:

          If this is really “Al Gore”, then don’t forget to mention how you have stood to profit from your own conspiracy and “I’m right and you’re wrong” idealogy, speeches, brokering cap and trade credits, etc. In terms of the earth’s history, man’s time on this planet is a blink of an eye. That also means that we still are unable to validate our hypothesis of the LONG TERM impact of 100 yrs of industrial growth because all of our measurements are practically w/in a margin of error. In other words 100 years of data in earth’s historical terms is like taking the air temperature now, and 3 seconds from now and stating we have established a valid trend – not enough datapoints to make believable predictions. So, lets just do our best to improve our habits without legislating control of every resin pellet, release of CO2, etc. If anything, it’s guys like you that are also involved in the downfall of our economy with all of the regulations. BTW, I will keep watching my Fox news. You just can’t handle the fact that they call the spade a spade and bring light to the scams that are created on both sides where folks like you intent to profit highly from. You my friend have done a great job making yourself look like an idiot.

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        • Anonymous says:

          U need to change the habits and regulations of other countries who we let make all of our products w/out any restrictions so its cheaper……not the US its the other idiots around the world who won’t put any regulations or they wouldn’t survive cause they can’t afford too block pollution….they build and make are stuff then mess up our atmosphere with the pollution…blame the communist US govt and the worse anti christ president ever

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      • Dave says:

        Keep fooling yourself.

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        • Sean says:

          I’m still not convinced that NOT going green is the way to go. I’d rather breathe fresh air than smog. Screw your shortsightedness, and think of the future generations.

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      • jacie says:

        Focus on the known facts rather than your observations and opinions about warming conditions. Personal observations about the sun and about what you remember from the olden days are subjective, flawed, and biased. No climate scientist working today believes that the climate is not warming. Cycles? The sun? Been alive at least 40 years? Fortunately those studying the climate don’t rely on their recollections of weather or what their grandmother told them or “Dear Diary, Today it was warm. I saw the sun. It was bright. Tomorrow it will be warm again. It is summer.”

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      • JTaylor says:

        YOU WATCH TOO MUCH FOX NEWS! GO READ A BOOK!

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      • R Tee says:

        Joe, you are retarded.

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      • Anonymous says:

        That was well said! People need to research themselves more and stop listening to our politicians and money driven government!!!

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      • Anonymous says:

        You are brilliant! !!! Thank you….I agree totaly

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      • L. Steve Varnum says:

        This is the most negative post I have seen on any subject in a long time. You are saying that scientists all lie and YOU are the only truth teller…hmmm…not very impressive.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Find a friend who is a climate scientist and get the facts instead of spewing political propaganda just because you don’t want to believe humans are effecting anything on the planet in a negative way. Global warming aside, we are destroying our environment and and it’s biodiversity so quickly we are in a mass extinction unlike almost any other in the history of the planet. Research and educate… don’t spew your biased opinion.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Facts are Facts Anyone that believes in MAN MADE Global warning is just an ignorant lemming. Joe B. has hit the nail on the head and that’s why you never see an honest debate regarding this issue. THE END.

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      • Jeremy says:

        Then how do you explain the overwhelming consensus among climate scientists that global anthropogenic climate change is real? Politics?

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      • Celebrate Spring says:

        We’re only halfway through winter, granted, but so for for the mid-Atlantic area we’ve had a fairly mild spring, very little precip (unlike the forecast in the article above). In fact, meteorologists tonight were saying this may end up being one of the warmest/dryest winters on record. I can believe it. Was in southern Maryland a few days ago and some trees were actually starting to BUD. In January! My pets are also starting to shed their winter coats about a month earlier than usual (usually by end of February I can scoop up enough hair to make a sweater, lol). So as an anti–winter person, here’s hoping for some periodic 60+-degree days, average lows in the 50s, until middle of March, when it will it then reach 70 degrees and stay about that temp until end June–with very little precip and mostly sunny days. And may (a sunny and relatively dry) summer arrive in April and hang around until end of October, lol. (Hey, a girl can dream!)

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      • Anonymous says:

        wonderfully put…. i cant agree more

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    • Anonymous says:

      Noticed my cat started fattening up for winter already and has a heavier than normal fur coat.. . . So I thought, hmmmmm looks like maybe we are in for a hard winter????? I decided to check on my theory by logging into the internet and getting a peek at the winter 2011/2012 winte forecast. BINGO!

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      • Cattish says:

        I’ve also noticed that all four of my cats and 2 dogs have already begun to grow out with a nice layer of downy fur. I worry more about ice buid up than snow. Fresh snow is easier to drive in than the constant snow melt freeze combo we have had the past couple of winters in the Pac NW.

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      • aL gOrE says:

        That actually makes sence

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    • PawneeBill47 says:

      Oklahoma had it’s first two blizzards of record in the last two years. Global warming is BS designed to make money selling BS to leftys who want to believe man is and has always been the problem. When I lived in Chicago back in the 70′s the left was warning us (I was a lefty then) to “insulate your homes and buy down coats, a mini ice age is coming!” What a crock!!

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      • Anonymous says:

        i love snow, i loved the blizzard of 09 , no electric for 16 days, cooked xmas dinner for 5 families on a wood cook stove, best christmas i rem , hurray for the SNOW , LET IT SNOW LET IT SNOW LET IT SNOW

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    • Anonymous says:

      Bull, its cold not hotter, it said the next 3 decades, cold for the next 3 decades does not sound like global warming. How is -50F global warming, that seems pretty cold to me? Maybe they misnamed the what is happening. Ether way though, I just want more powder and face shots for skiing.

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    • hi says:

      Wrong. Wrong. SO wrong. Proves long term forecasts are horeshit

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      • Celebrate Spring says:

        hi back! I agree about long-term forecasts. They’re all a crap shoot. The only “predictable” thing about winter is that it’s unpredictable. (Meteorologists have THE best jobs. Who wouldn’t like to make a pretty good salary and not have to be right? To be able to simply shrug your shoulders and say, “Weather’s unpredictable, even with all our weather toys and satellites.” Of course you have those idiots who blame meteorologists when it rains, snows, storms, etc., but unfortunately being an idiot isn’t illegal, lol)

        I don’t think any meteorologist can be confident in their weather outlook beyond 2-3 days max. There are just too many variables at play. And, nothing against meteorologists, but I think with all the technology, we’ve turned off our own senses. Farmers historically are the most accurate about weather, because their livelihood is so dependent on the weather. They watch the *environment* — the trees, the grass, rivers/lakes, birds, how livestock act, etc., the sky and cloud patterns. Having grown up in a rural town (though sadly it’s not so rural today), I will take the “forecast” from an ‘ol-timer farmer any day over a degreed meteorologist…

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  2. ronron says:

    Why do we even listen to these pseudo-scientists? Aren’t these the same morons that said we would have a mild 2010-2011? And what is this about solar activity causing temperature change? You mean the gigantic hydrogen explosion causes the weather to change ion earth? IMPOSSIBLE! Climate change is because of carbon and because you touch yourself at night!

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    • klem says:

      Eaxactly right, only a couple of years ago climatologists concluded that the sun had no effect on climate, it was all controlled by CO2. Now they are saying the sun does have an effect. In other words, they don’t have a clue.

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    • Cathy says:

      The Pacific NW actually did experience mild weather this past winter 2011. I run a Siberian Husky sled dog team, and I could not get them trained properly because it was simply too warm to run them. It did snow in the mountains – but that snowfall was immediately followed by 50+ degree temperatures which caused snow melt and extensive flooding on three separate occasions within a two month period. You do not understand what is meant by low solar activity. The authors are not referring to any changes in the sun, but rather in how the earth’s atmosphere is impacting that activity which is resulting in global warming. Global warming actually can cause lower temperatures in the winter, similar to a nuclear winter. I happen to know a scientist who has studied ice flow rates in glacial ice sheets near the Poles and the process he describes is quite a bit more complex than your understanding. He actually holds a Ph.D. and is respected world wide and has had an ice shelf named after him as well as the process I just described. So you would be well advised to listen and learn, as it is quite obvious you have zero comprehension and knowledge of this issue.

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      • sirshred says:

        Yes, the sun does effect our climate. I’m not going to go into detail about the process but look up sunspots and tell me that they have NO effect on our earth. A decade ago we did not have as good of an understanding of this process as we do today. And before writing false information about out sun, it is going through a low solar cycle, which means there are less of these sunspots. YOU do not know what low solar activity means. Oh and global warming is NOTHING like a nuclear winter where fallout blocks the suns rays, carbon does nothing of the sort, it traps heat. that is all.

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      • minniemouse says:

        God only knows, but I just take it a-day-at-a-time, and trust my own instincts…My husband and I have enough firewood through the year 2020, so who cares!!

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      • weathergeek says:

        Cathy,
        I have my master’s degree in environmental science, and I still very much appreciate the skepticism about so-called global warming, because I understand just how much of what scientists predict is guesswork. Whenever scientists indoctrinate the public about complex issues that are not fully understood, they are doing a great disservice. Even the term, “global warming” is completely inaccurate and misleading, since it suggests the entire globe warming up, which is simply not happening, nor predicted to happen. Ice cover in the northern hemisphere grew to record size last winter, and many places, including the desert southwest, where I live, saw low temps that blasted old records by 20 or 30 degrees in some places. Don’t you think it’s confusing when scientists say, “well, that was due to global warming, which can cause global cooling also…”? I’m sorry that you had trouble working your sled dogs last winter, but most of us had far more serious problems due to COLD. Let’s stop believing we’re seeing “global warming” in every little short-term, local trend, and hey, let’s start thinking about it as global climate change, a very very complex issue that not even those PhD’s really understand.

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        • jadedmind says:

          Well believe it or not, these sled teams are very important and serious business. Sled teams are the only way that some places get their supplies throughout the winter season. Don’t slight their business.

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        • Patrick TR says:

          It’s true that the desert southwest saw record cold temperatures, but only for one week. From Tuscon to El Paso, the winter was very warm, 60s and 70s most days, even weeks in the upper 80s for highs, with no snow anywhere. Then one weekend in February it was suddenly 20 degrees below zero, for one week. All the pipes burst and there was ice everywhere. All the trees and shrubs died. Then it warmed up the next week and stayed that way. Sound to me like exactly what the climate scientists are saying. Every year we break the previous hot temperature records here in the southwest, bu we also have freak swings of extreme temperature in the other direction. It sounds just like what the “global warming” crowd has predicted. I was a long term skeptic on this climate chagne stuff, but I have to admit the last twenty years has changed my mind. I think we need to start paying attention to these scientists.
          Oh, and to the fellow who mentioned how everyone was worried about a new ice age in the 1970′s, actually it was just a few loud scinetists. Most even then were noticing a warming earth. I didn’t believe them back then. But I am starting to now.

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      • Rand says:

        We had a record snowpack in the Sierra Nevada Mountains this winter, and you can still see the snowpack in the visible satellite photos… and it’s mid-September! The snowpack is usually gone by late June.

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      • jadedmind says:

        Where in the pacific NW are you talking about that had a mild winter? Glacier National park, in Montana, did not open the Going to the Sun road until July 13 due to record amounts of snowfall. Record amounts of snow fall in the Sierras. Nampa Idaho had record snow fall this past winter…. So where exactly are you talking about in the Northwest? I also read there was record snow fall in the Washington Cascades….

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      • PawneeBill47 says:

        “He has a phd”= He didn’t want to work a real job so spent his life educating himself so others like you could admire him. I’m naming an ice shelf after me too. Aren’t I brilliant!!

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    • Zorak says:

      I have magic crystals that predict the weather. There is no science. Science is only numbers, whereas magic is from inside you. What can a number do? I can make hurricanes stop spinning. I have done this, I can also make the climate change. It will be very warm this winter, and there will hardly be any snow in the continental united states. I know this because of the magic crystals and I have learned how to read them. I am making this the warmest winter in 100 years. Watch and see.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Yay you!!! As a sun worshiper and warm weather loving woman I pray that your magic crystals keep our winter sunny and warm~ish. Unfortunately even if the weather co-operates in our co-creation the chem-trails still will alter the sky in the ill placed effort to rectify climate change with so called ‘stratospheric geo-engineering’ that doses our skies with aluminium and barium in a futal misguided attempt to control the cause and effect nature of, well, Nature.

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      • Anonymous says:

        I truly believe the crystal person, it is jan. 6 and 65 degrees out! Has not even snowed yet!

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    • Chad says:

      killed them deer.

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  3. Kevin D says:

    I’ll take another season like this one! I think he’s right. I’ll go on record to say that 2011-2012 will be as big or bigger than 2010-2011! Let’s revisit this on January 1, 2012 on Unofficial.

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  4. Eric B says:

    Any idea how this will affect winter in Japan?

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  5. craig says:

    tree huggers in denial unite. I can hear it again “first it gets cold before it gets warm”

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    • CCCP says:

      The climate has radically changed in the past; the end of the Mesozoic Era was the warmest in the earth`s history. So warm that the planet had no polar ice caps. I think its beyond arrogant to suggest that it will not happen again just because we have an immediate cooling trend at the moment.

      The scientific illiteracy of Americans is disturbing and you are a shining example…now go back to copulating with your sister……

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    • Anonymous says:

      They are right not a tree hugger

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  6. df says:

    This will certainly bring out all the anti-science morons who are in denial about climate change. Yeah, all the ones that were too stupid to understand global warming includes extreme cold as part of the package. The concept had to be renamed to climate change because these people couldn’t grasp the concept if it had warming in the name and yet included extreme winters.

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    • klem says:

      What about the anti-science morons who are climate change alarmists, will it bring them out too?

      You smart.

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    • steve says:

      I agree with you – but the climate change (global warming) is not caused by CO2, or this isn’t the main cause. It is my opinion, and mine only, but there was news a while ago that the earth has been shifting slightly on it’s axis – I’m sure this has happened slowly over time – and didn’t just move overnight. The same time period we are talking about also could relate to the time period that we have started noticing the shift in climate and weather patterns. The shift has been enough to move the zodiac one month and I have been watching the past couple of years where the sun is tracking in the sky. I will tell you that if you monitor this, you’ll find that in the summer it tracks more north than usual which would correspond with a more southerly track in the winter. For those who don’t believe the sun has any effect on temps – why is it when the sun is below the equator inthe winter does it cool off here in the norther hemisphere? Because the sun isn’t over us directly – duh… OK, with this larger shift in the sun track, it definitely explains the cooler winters up here along with the hotter summers and especially farther north – as in record heat in Iowa, Wisconsin, and surrounding states. And with this cooler temp to come more to the southern states this winter, I would be predicting much more snow farther south than they have had in the past – while it would be also correct to predict a colder northern states than previously as well. This was proved out last year and I think it will increase in dynamics this year. NYC will, in fact, probably get a lot more snow due to cooler temps at that latitude – as will states like Florida and Texas possibly getting more snow than previously thought of.
      This may not make sense to everyone, but it sure does to me. Opinions? Thoughts?

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  7. JT says:

    The biggest mistake they ever made was calling it global warming instead of climate change from the get-go.

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  8. ME says:

    Humans are innately arrogantly resistant to new ways of thinking even when the compounding evidence is insurmountable.

    Whenever someone calls bs on climate change it reminds me of the religious clowns who believed lightning and earthquakes were signs from a higher intellectual being and would persecute astronomers who claimed the world was not flat.

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    • klem says:

      Oh man we’re runnin with the heathens now.

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    • sundog says:

      Whenever I hear “scientists” talk about human activity being the major cause of climate change, it reminds me of how “experts” initially thought ice cream consumption was a trigger for polio. Ice cream consumption went way up in summer, consistent with polio cases, so there must be a link.

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    • Anonymous says:

      You hit it on the head “Me”. I personally have a difficult time dealing with the reality of the “not-so-bright” human race every day and most times feel ashamed to even be a part of it. If only there really were a “god” and it wasn’t just folks still worshiping the sun, then we would not have to worry about any of this cuz it would all be in “God’s” hands. The truly sad thing is that many if not most people in America see it that way. Notice how the “climate change” (science) deniers never bring up any thing about the other “massive” issues that the environment is experiencing due to human activities? When all I hear is people proclaiming that climate change is hogwash without bringing up the other insurmountable negative realities of human effects on the earth, it is more than apparent that they are simply part of the “herd” that is resistant to change. Always have been… always will be. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is. Maybe some day we will actually get a president in office that actually has the guts to “TAX” unsustainable energy sources (gas, oil, LP, etc) instead of subsidize it. Until then, nothing BIG will ever happen.

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  9. william reed says:

    ooooo a lot of snow again,maybe ill get lucky ang some one will eat the snow off my butt

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  10. Captain Obvious says:

    When the planet as a whole heats up, that means more polar ice will melt. When that ice melts, it evaporates. After it evaporates, it turns into clouds. Those clouds become heavy with moisture. That moisture falls to earth as precipitation. If that precipitation falls when the temperature happens to be below freezing (which is quite common over much of the U.S. during winter), it falls in the form of snow. So: global warming results in heavy snowfall. The snowpack from Wisconsin on up to Alberta last winter held the highest moisture content in recorded history. The year before that held the second-highest. This trend will continue until more than half of the remaining polar ice has melted; then it will abruptly become warmer and drier. This is elementary science. Jesus Christ.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Scientists say current concerns over a tipping point in the disappearance of Arctic sea ice may be misplaced. Danish researchers analyzed ancient pieces of driftwood in north Greenland which they say is an accurate way to measure the extent of ancient ice loss. Writing in the journal Science, the team found evidence that ice levels were about 50% lower 5,000 years ago. They say changes to wind systems can slow down the rate of melting. They argue, therefore, that a tipping point under current scenarios is unlikely…

      Dr Funder and his team say their data shows a clear connection between temperature and the amount of sea ice. The researchers concluded that for about 3,000 years, during a period called the Holocene Climate Optimum, there was more open water and far less ice than today – probably less than 50% of the minimum Arctic sea ice recorded in 2007. But the researcher says that even with a loss of this size, the sea ice will not reach a point of no return. “I think we can say that with the loss of 50% of the current ice, the tipping point wasn’t reached.” The idea of an Arctic tipping point has been highlighted by many scientists in recent years. They have argued that when enough ice is lost it could cause a runaway effect with disastrous consequences. “I don’t say that our current worries are not justified, but I think that there are factors which will work to delay the action in relation to some of the models that have been in the media.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Hey Captin Obvious,
      Didn’t you read the forecast? They are predicting weather based on what the temperatures are in the Pacific ocean because the air currents run from west to east. They do not care about how much ice has melted in the North or how much ice is growing in the south.

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  11. Tim says:

    So what dose this mean for the southern planes? Oklahoma and Texas??

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    • minniemouse says:

      You better get down on your knees, and pray the “Dust Bowl” days don’t come around again…My friend in Lawton, OK said it was looking like a War-Zone, there. Fires everywhere!!

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      • Anna says:

        Bull. I grew up in Lawton and keep very close tabs on what is going on up there. I also happen to still live in the plains though in Texas now. Yes, there was ONE fire in Medicine Park and about a month later there was the fire in Indiahoma. BFD. That’s not unusual for this part of the country this time of year. When I was a kid Fort Sill would end up on fire (one way or another) just about every other year. It sucked. The smoke would invariably end up blowing into Lawton and we’d all get sick for a few days but it was life. Texas has had more fires recently than Oklahoma. But again, this is not unusual for this time of year. I would like to think that those of us in the plains would end up with 50 inches of snow and that it would be 20 below 0 for a solid 3 or 4 months… But I know it won’t happen – maybe Lubbock or San Angelo and the surrounding areas will get several inches of snow, but Lawton will get it’s usual 2 inches of snow for the year and the southern texas plains will get it’s usual inch or two. Temperatures will be cold now and then but for the most part it’ll be pretty mild, especially as compared to the northeastern section of the country. I’m willing to bet that on Christmas I’ll be sitting in my backyard wearing shorts and a tanktop. :oD

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  12. GunnysGirl says:

    As much as I love to read nerds fight….

    Just wondering how this will effect the central Sierra for the Winter of 2011-2012. Last year the higher elevations were dumped on with Mammoth have record snow fall but, the lower elevations were left out. We always seem to fall into the ‘equal chances’ equation.

    Thanks -

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  13. steezemonkey says:

    whats the prediction for southern rockies s. colorado n new mexico??

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  14. Mark says:

    The monder minimum coincided with a period of little or no sunspot activity.We
    Just got out of the Little ice age in the late eighteen hundreds and what happens
    at the end of a cold spell? A warm spell. Look the climate has changed in the past and it will change again, there’s nothing we can do about it or should do.
    As far pseudo scientists concerns about climate change it’s a ruse to sell you into a carbon rationing scheme which means higher taxes and fuel prices.

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  15. midwestern says:

    Theres no bullet proof way of forecasting…as we do in the midwest just wake up and see what its doin outside

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  16. andrew tadrous says:

    is it going to be bad in staten island new york

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  17. nicoli says:

    Who the heck is in denial about climate change? The climate has changed drastically both ways since the beginning. It’s a cycle. It’s simply ridiculous, not to mention arrogant, to think that whatever percentage of manmade co2 that makes up less than one percent of all greenhouse gases could cause such significant change. More co2 means bigger, healthier plant life! That means more oxygen and healthier breathing air for animals and humans. Pollution is one thing. Being sensible and not using more than you need is one thing. But blaming humans for what is naturally occurring in nature? That’s just stupid. How about some truth?

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  18. SB says:

    The weather like everything else has cycles!!! You don’t have to be a genius to figure out the political aspect/gain of so-called “global warming”!!! Use your own head/ideas; follow the money, its really not that hard!!
    Thank you for that great comment Nicoli! Wish more people could think logically!

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    • Joe B. says:

      Bingo, SB, you are right on. My brother in law is one of the PHD climate know it all’s who has been cashing in on government grants for decades. The funny thing is the politicians cranking out the money define what they want the study to predict, with a wink and a nod. There is huge money in climate hysteria. If the weather did not cycle up and down and vary from year to year they would have nothing to point at and speculate on the cause. Since what they say really can not be proven, they count on it not being refuted as well. Unfortunately, many of the scientists NEED their theories to be believed and have convinced themselves. Keep the money coming !

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    • Anonymous says:

      SB, If YOU could maybe look a little deeper and think logically yourself, maybe you could come to terms with the possibility that the right could also have an agenda to “deny” it in an attempt to prevent business regulations among other things. Maybe some money under the table from corporations?? Happens all the time on both sides.

      Hmmm. To deep for ya?

      Do some deeper research to learn the facts rather than pretending to know everything. Yes the weather does cycle, it’s how those cycles deviate over long periods of time compared to other cycles and what caused them, that scientists use to determine possible outcomes.

      For example, during the last cooling trend, were sunspots active or inactive among many other things. Ge, maybe we are “supposed” to be in a global cooling phase (little ice age) as they had supposedly spoken of back in the 1970 and the fact that we are going the other direction makes it even that much more serious. Right or wrong about global warming, it really doesn’t matter and is the least of our worries. Pollution, biodiversity loss, over-population, massive starvation, dirty air & water, toxic food… nobody in their right mind can deny these realities (notice I said right mind?) so why on earth would you pick a fight on global warming?

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  19. Anthony says:

    I live in Maryland. I like this winter outlook so far. And I, in general, do hope to have snow, let alone having a good, decent winter.

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  20. ang says:

    Snow Days!!! Woooo Hoooo!!! Bring it!!!

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  21. true blue one08 says:

    polar bears drown beacuse u touch urself at night hahahahahahaha asss holles

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  22. true blue one08 says:

    its hard being black and gifted lay off

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  23. only logic says:

    I’m tired of the whole global warming scam of special interest groups their interest is to put dollars in their pockets the weather comes and goes in cycles anyone with half a brain has figured this out now I’m no meteorologist but I can tell you last time we had a summer close to this hot the central united states got crippled with the ice storm of 2000 do your due dilligence and research wether patterns for your area as I am inclined to agree with this websites forcast compared to those who said above normal temps also has anyone ever considerred the manner in which a top spins kinda like the earth huh it seems to have an xtra wobble every now and again peace all

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  24. Its been predicted time and time again that this summer would be hot, and this winter would be cold. I dont think i can trust everytime they say something like this.

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  25. Tom says:

    Sounds like ski-bum wishcasting to me. As a winter hater, I will in turn wishcast balmy, springlike temperatures and no snow across huge swaths of the country, in particular the one I occupy.

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    • Izzy_cat says:

      HA HA TOM unless you live in the tropics your gonna get snow.. sorry to be the berrer of bad news but have you watched the weather today? your gonna get a cold front weather ya want one or not… :P ill, mi, in, oh and east are predicting there first snow come friday..

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  26. Dominic says:

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  27. Lifty69 says:

    Winter Storm Watch for the WA passes

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  28. MissMadam says:

    Riiiiiiiiighhhhht…. so those with most to lose are the environmental scientists who fear losing their grant funding – not the big oil, gas and coal companies with the multi-billion dollar profits? After all everyone knows that if you want to get rich quick you become an environmentalist rather than an oil man…. hmmmm just look at who has the most to lose. I work in this area of science and most scientists I know are terrified on a personal level about what the changes will mean to our society – most think we are past the point of no return but pretty much all reserve the right to say ‘I told you so’ to the window lickers still struggling to grasp this….

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    • PowerMonger says:

      Never let a crisis go to waste… There are other currencies than money and the most heady of those is power and control which often leads to more money. So, the “researchers” may not get rich but look at industries that fill a “need” within the new regulatory environment caused by the hysteria and kool-aid drinkers. No profit in making incandescent bulbs, but man we make a killing on compact fluorescent ones. Make the incandescent bulbs illegal and voila – we have a more lucrative revenue stream. Not only that – but initial revenues will go through the roof because EVERYONE has to replace their bulbs. The follow on replacement cycle will be slightly less profitable because – theoretically – the CF bulbs last longer.

      The process is 100% reliable!!!

      Hysteria -> Propaganda -> Hoodwink the masses into accepting new Regulations -> Profit (Rinse and Repeat).

      It worked for the Patriot Act – and we now have porno x-ray scanners in the airport. Someone made bank on that and it sure wasn’t the researchers.

      It worked for cap n trade -> Al Gorio made a fortune. Mission accomplished.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Hmmm Power Monger, so no worries when coal fired power plants are spewing off massive amounts of pollution due to needless energy waste from using incandescent bulbs? I know, I know… any government regulation is just a money maker… just like vehicle emissions controls… right? It couldn’t be that is just so happens in a free market than when change is implemented, even if for the greater good such as emissions controls, etc folks will make money off of it.

        Sure, money will be made off of fluorescent bulbs, but it will also be lost on incandescent bulbs. Just because the bulbs are more expensive does NOT meant that a company profits more off of them, especially in a free competitive market.

        Also, why the sudden rush of CFL sales? Oh is the government also requiring everyone to immediately toss out their incandescent bulbs? I was not aware of that.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Dang MissMadam, I like it. Kaboom! you hit it right on the head. Why are people so ignorant as to deny that they are causing any issues on our planet? Lets just deny, deny, deny and say it’s all hunky dory so we don’t have to think or change.
      There you go!

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  29. chris says:

    hell yeahh snowmobileing is gonna be good this year.

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  30. mark says:

    Let it snow!!
    Let it snow!!
    Let it snow!!

    Time to go SKIING

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  31. Brent says:

    I don’t believe in organized religion but who or whatever created this planet is the only one who knows what’s causing all this.

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  32. Karl says:

    The earth has always undergone changes from cool to warm and back. Check you global weather history, which will prove this. To say that man made co2 is now the reason we started warming in this short a period of time is crazy. In the 60′s and 70′s they said the earth was cooling, then all of a sudden in the 80′s man made co2 was causing global warming. There was plenty of fossil fuels being burned well befor that, so why haven’t we been steadily warming all along? After Hurricane Katrina, which came in a year of many hurricanes, they said to start expecting more and stronger hurricanes, but that prediction flopped in the following years. Then came the major snowstorms and cold on the east coast, and all of a sudden it’s now climate change and not global warming. Why didn’t they call it climate change in the 80′s? It’s because they were wrong on their assumptions. I remember reading an article in the 80′s which said snow sledding in NY and Washington would be a thing of the past, and that tress that bloomed in Central Park in Demember during a particularily warm winter, could become a regular occurance in the coming years. What happened to all of those predictions and more? Climate change is nothing more than a way to extort money from industrialized nations to give to other nations. Translation: INCOME REDISTRIBUTION.

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  33. Izzy_cat says:

    the way i look at it, the weather is going to come and go as it pleases. from the time the planet was created until it’s end we will see changes and patterns. there wasn’t people to document the events so we didn’t know about them on a yearly basis. like now we see the changes it’s all part of the big blue planet going thru the aging process.. i really agree with the comment that the global whoo ha is all political to get grant money. all i can say is you have a head on your shoulders, use it, and be prepared for anything that may come our way. candles and wood burners are the way to go in a event of a bad storm and a generator too.. i have one suggestion to some of the “kids” on here learn to survive.. been around for around 50 years now and seen differences in the weather and i am glad i had decks of cards and games to do while we waited in the cold…

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    • Uncle Yuck says:

      Think of the days when the weather has I80 closed and all the gapers are stuck in their cars at Applegate jonsing. Minivans full of prariedogs not able to get up here and lose their skis and push snow out of key places due to lack of skill. The hoard kept to a minimum due to the glorious white. We’ve seen it before and with a little luck we’ll see la Nina step it up . Think and be positive and always wear a rubber

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  34. Anthony says:

    I swear, i have seen the national weather service is predicting an equal chance of snow for the northeast/mid-Atlantic region. Well that’s bull and other stupid outlooks similar to it. How the hell can we have equal chances after so much precipitation we have been have? I am expecting to see a form of repercussion by having above normal snowfall.

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  35. Lifty69 says:

    Last year we opened at Bogus Basin…Bungus ..Thanksgiving day.Earliest open since if i rememeber right 1996.I work those lifts soo come on snow think it might be a time fer an offering to Skaldi and Urhhl for some epic pow.Anyways remember be nice to ur local lifties we are the sorry critters that get to watch u guys and gals have fun.

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  36. fedup says:

    these followers of global warming are getting false readings due to having cranium inserted into rectum. (sorry if too crude) but the oregon cascades had skiing on july 4th this year. yes on snow. Global warming is a bunch of hot air.
    this summer was coldest i’ve experienced my roses didnt bloom til late october.
    our garden in sept looked like it should be in april. we had snow as late as june 22 and that was at 3500 ft elevation.

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  38. mossy oak says:

    The only explanation of anything that happens in this world is GOD! It is all written in the HOLY BIBLE! All the signs the world has been going through is in this book!

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  39. ABC123 says:

    will there be a storm in edmonds or seattle?

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  40. Ben Fraklin says:

    Cry Baby Al Gore Kept us all waiting to see if a Miracle was going to happen & if George W Bush was going to concede to him for umm..maybe a Christmas Present or something I guess & now he can’t let go of the fact that”GLOBEL WARMING” is a crock of BS. Al…go fly a kite..

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  41. John Hughes says:

    I live in the Chicago west suburbs. I have an awesome group of kids that shovel my driveway every time it snows. They have proven to be a group of young entrepreneurs. I am certain they will be successful business men one day. Check them out: http://www.ShovelBoys.com.

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  42. Celeste says:

    Folks, there is coming a time, and it is not too far out on the horizon, when MAN will not be able to predict any of the weather. The weather will become so outrageous and unpredictable that weather forecasters will not know from one day to the next what is going to happen. Mark my word. We have already entered it and will watch it get worse and worse as time goes by.

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    • vanessa j. says:

      Now that is just the truth. I’m sure not too many Bible believers here. Nonetheless the statement you made is so on target. It is exactly what the Bible says, of course in more ancient language. A progression. Weather worsening and conditions accelerating as the world approaches the end of the world as we know it. The planet is not going to be destroyed. Everything on it will be and the weather is only part of it. The planetary aspect is just getting in gear.

      Man is already unable to predict the weather. Just read the comments here and that is evident. The weather is going to get far worse than even our imaginations can create.

      2011 was record breaking all over the world. Locally, Midwest, I’ve lived 56 years. Came up in Chicago. Cannot ever remember reaching the end of December with no significant snowfalls. Living in Wisconsin now 17 years. Rain this late in December? Unheard of. It’s not even cold enough for gloves in Northeast Wisconsin.

      I’m truly thankful for the experts and amateurs who share what they have learned. But the Creator of Heaven and Earth has never given “control” of the world or heaven to anyone and He doesn’t do predictions. He has a book— that tells us the weather will be out of control as the world, as we know it, comes to it’s end. Weather so scary that men’s hearts would literally fail from fear just watching the catastrophic accelerating. That same book called the Bible tells us why not just what.

      Amazing people still choose to ignore it or laugh at it. Sounds like the days of Noah to me. Only this time it won’t be floods. He made a promise never to destroy the earth again by a flood.

      It will be fire this time. Technology overload perhaps? I did not understand how it could all go under from fire many years ago. Now, with the technology overload we are already experiencing it makes sense. Forget the water. I’m watching what effect technology is having in all this.

      Be safe.

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  43. andrew says:

    interesting. here in australia there is far less contention on the issue of anthropogenic global warming (ie we mostly side with the vast majority of science on the subject). I myself see it as a combination of both factors. sadly, whatever the cause you may choose, our own small but very much loved alpine regions here in australia are shrinking. which sucks.

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    • goodtallviking says:

      So, Andrew, I take it you agree with us scientists that (a) the planet has been generally cooling over the last decade and (b) there is no conceivable way that the trivial amounts of CO2 man produces could affect the global temperature ? Great. I did not realize y’all paid Plimer that much attention down under.

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  44. Julia says:

    No one can predict this. People can’t even forecast for the next few tays. This is wrong. It’s Maine, December, Raining, and 50 degrees.
    Yep, totally cold, brutal and snowy.
    God I hate this weather. :’( Might as well be spring now if it’s not going to snow.

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  45. vito imbornone says:

    when is new york going to get a big snowstorm? i love snow.

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  46. national weather service says:

    weather patterns shift. if u have not notticed its in the 50 now but its getting colder. we will get slamed with snow in january and febuarry so get out your plows and salt.

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  47. Rick says:

    Whether you believe in global warming and climate change or not won’t make a bit of a difference, it’s happening and we are responsible. The human species has an accountability problem and can’t take the fact that he has F–ed up, he is a goof and stupid to boot. But our extinction is inevitable we keep supporting the criminals that want to destroy the planet all for the almighty buck retards.

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  48. whatever says:

    There has not been one flake of snow here so far this winter, it is the warmest one Ive ever expierenced, personally I hope those they say global warming isnt happening are right, cuzI am a little concerned now!

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    • Chad says:

      You and me both. i just dumped 6grand into my new sled. a 15000dolla toy is worthless right now.

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    • Rick says:

      Trust me they are wrong, it is happening and you are experiencing the results and it is only the beginning it will get much worse. There is more information on the internet then ever before, 900 scientists can’t be wrong. Those denying it are paid by oil corporations also a proven fact

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  49. B says:

    Weather is whatever mother nature has in store. I believe that we can reduce pollution in the air, but that is to keep humans healthy not the Earth. Car fumes affect our bodies like cancer, disease, and even compromising our immune system. As for our temperatures and natural disasters that is strictly mother nature. In Oklahoma there is a saying ” If you don’t like the weather stay a while it will change” that is so true. We could have a blizzArd one week and a heat wave the next. Our climate is always changing.

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  50. Realist says:

    The earth’s climate is not stable. It changes over time, and every year is different.

    How long has the human race actually been recording weather patterns, temperatures, precipitation, ocean surface temps, jet streams, humidity levels, C02 levels, etc?

    What, maybe collecting that data accurately over the last 100 years?

    Know fact: The earth’s surface temperature has been on a wave, varying every 50 -70 years of about 1 degree celcius.

    Funny thing is, we are and have been on the downswing of that wave for the last 30 years.

    Global Warming? Media just needs something else to scare us about.

    Can someone acutally proove to me that the earth is heating up due to C02 gas? No known evidence.

    For you ski hounds….. we all know for every ‘soft winter’ comes a ‘hard winter’…. Maybe not so much is a pattern, but it all equals out.

    Not sure who is driving this ‘false’ global warming scam…..

    Needs to stop…….

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  51. Evan says:

    Meanwhile, December is over… and where is the blizzard?

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  52. Cristian says:

    Why is this happening on Chicago???? Why there’s no prognostics for snow in next few days when they are talking about the worst winter for us?

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  53. Rick says:

    I hope all you fools that think Global Warming is a hoax are enjoying yourself’s, because, your demise is imminent and that is base of scientific fact. People only want to believe what suits them, science says that human activates are what is causing global warming. But, people have a problem with being held accountable but as we continue to ignore facts the planet’s environment continues to get worse year after year and science said already that it will be different all over the planet. The wind has already become more extreme and storm’s are more intense, but you keep on doubting and in a few years let me know how that works out for you.

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  54. Jo says:

    This thread should be re titled “La Nina is a Tease”

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  55. Fu says:

    Ur prediction sux anus hole!

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  56. Fu says:

    And your mom calls for cold and dry

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  57. brad says:

    I live in middle Georgia and thus far have been dissapointed in this weather,it was too warm to get into the holidays, and the short coldsnaps that have been brief and ongoing since October leave me to beleive, we will have no snow this winter,in fact trending forward if the pattern doesnt change it will be full blown spring in march down here!

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  58. Anonymous says:

    its the elephants

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  59. dash says:

    it hasent snowed in a while where i live (flagstaff az) and it is starting to melt :(

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  60. Jonathan says:

    First of all I would like to comment that any of you, like Joe B, who deny the fact that humans are causing the climate to change( along with species extinction, massive deforestation and many other earth destruction practices) are not only in denial but are ignorant and frankly just stupid. But what I really wanted to point out is that all the predictions about the harsh winter and heavy snow in the Pacific Northwest are wrong. I live in the mountains of Southern Oregon at about 5000 feet and we usually have at least 2 feet of snow on the ground. We have NONE. Zero. Zip. This is very concerning as there is only been a total deficit of snow in December only 7 times in recorded history. Although it is only the beginning of January there is still time for snow but frankly it is looking bleak. Anyway I will keep you informed.

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  61. Dirk says:

    I’m getting a little tired of the number of people who seem to think that the mere presence of man on this planet is such a negative thing. You are so quick to reach the conclusion that just about everything we do is detrimental to the planet. That is simply not true. You point to pollution, deforestation, etc. and seem to think that we contribute absolutely nothing positive to the well-being of this place. I beg to differ.

    The planet- nature- has a way of purging itself and overcoming its own challenges and obstacles. We have realized that we were doing sme things wrong; we passed laws. Our air is cleaner than it was 40 years ago; many bodies of water are making a tremendous comeback- the Great Lakes for example- and deforestation is a myth.

    If you knew anyting about the logging industry, you would know that is it the same thing as farming, except that instead of harvesting every year, like for corn, you harvest every 10, 15, or 25 years. Loggers are farmers, no more, no less. They take care of their land and their crops to ensure that there will be plenty available for years to come- because they want to make money. It’s easy to take a picture of a clear cut area and demonize the entire industry, but the reality is that logging practices are good for the forest and he environment, not to mention all of the good things they provide us to make our lives better.

    Finally, the Earth has been around for billions of years and will be around for a very long time after the last humans disappear. We’re just passing here, a short, temporary, and in the big picture, probably pretty insignificant blip in the history of this rock. Anyone who thinks we can predict it, change it, destroy it, fix it, or control it in any way, is an arrogant dreamer. And that includes, and probably especially, climate.

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    • rick says:

      Oh yess it will purg itself but eradicating the virus known as man-kind, we are living contray to nature and that will not continue much longer. You think you can spit in mother natures face I laugh at you. I believe known scientist’s before you, so you keep denying reality and see how far that takes you we will kill this planet and ourselves in the process, because, of GREED!!!!!

      That’s Reality!!!!

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  62. Bud says:

    It’s amazing.. 50 degrees in iowa today.. jan 4th, 2012 and I havent seen a single snowflake this winter. the temp has only been down in the teens to single digits for lows only a couple times and the daily temps are always in the upper 30s and 45-50 degrees has be pretty normal right now… who says it’s cold???

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  63. Mittenmamma says:

    I live in the middle of the mitten and its been 38 – 40 most of the week and tomorrow it will probably hit 50. We have not had any snow. Sure, 2 days of flurries but thats it. I just checked our extended forcast and its looking like 35-40 thru the 15th. All the forcasts we read, said December and Jan were going to be cold and extreme amouts of snow, where is it??

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  64. Bob says:

    Great predictions….no snow on the ground in Michigan and barely any has fallen this season so far! That and way above normal temps…love how “smart” people think they can predict things like the weather!

    Back to the drawing board.

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  65. Josh says:

    I have never been through a winter so mild here in the North West… It has been above average temps since October. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not complaining, I like it!

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  66. udntknwme says:

    Blahblah…. global warming is hog wash! That is all!

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  67. Mistle T says:

    Tim Konrad got it wrong. January with no snow or even cold. So much for scientific predictions.

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  68. Randy says:

    Record breaking high temps happening alot this winter. No snow on the ground here in South Dakota. It is nice driving to work an not have to fight blowing snow and snow drifts.

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  69. isaiah B. says:

    This winter is substantially warmer than previous years up in canada. or from what ive seen. which pisses me off because i snowmobile. but im thinking its just a cycle

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  70. Jerry RUBIN says:

    How so very wrong your forecast has been this winter 2011-2012 in the Midwest. I just can believe how much your model have been inaccurate. Back to the drawing boards (as they use to say), now the computer screens.

    Farmers almanac was usually a miss, but it is time to upgrade your technology and your computations!!!!!!!!

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  71. jim says:

    Climate and weather are not the same.

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  72. Rachel says:

    Clearly and devastatingly untrue. Epic Fail.

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  73. Joe says:

    Was your weather prediction for the 2011/12 winter really just a “coin toss” prediction?

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  74. Rick says:

    Global Warming is man-made and if you think that we can pollute at unprecedented rates not seen before in history and not effect the planet in some way, then you are a fool. It has been proven by over 9 hundred scientists so quit fooling yourself. The only reason that we aren’t taking responsibility is because we do not want to change, its all about money and nothing more it’s called greed. Whether you take responsibility or not won’t matter future generations will pay for our Stupidity and that’s a Fact.

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    • Dirk says:

      You are right: there is a LOT of money to be made in pushing global warming and climate change.

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    • geopatty says:

      Earth’s cycles of warming and cooling started long before human’s industrial revolution and will continue long after humans are gone. Human’s did not “create” global warming. Yes, human activities have added green house gases to earth’s atmosphere, but “global warming” is not an effect of anything man-made. I agree there is a lot to be made (and has been made) by certain fear mongers preaching about global warming. But it’s the people that buy into the fear mongering that are enabling those people to continue to make more money.

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      • geopatty says:

        If the money made off fear mongering was put towards finding alternative energy sources, then we’d probably all be driving hydrogen cars! (or at least a lot closer to being able to do so).

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  75. shavez ahmed siddiqui says:

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  76. shavez ahmed siddiqui says:

    thanks mr.konrad and everyone for this information

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  77. MichiganMan says:

    Most winter predictions given out during the summer and fall of last year were wrong, but holy crap, this one is the most wrong I’ve seen yet. I’ll tell ya, I live in mid/Northern Michigan… we’ve only seen 4 days where I’d call them “arctic” cold. We’ve seen way more rainy days than snow days. In fact, we should have had over 40 inches of snow by now in an average year, we’ve had less than NINE. I’m tired of global warming naysayers and their excuses. Every year it’s El Nini, La Nina, jet stream, this or that, this year they blame the arctic oscillation and La Nina. Well, we’re having an average La Nina year which should NOT be giving us these warm temps. Also, it’s been abnormally warm across most of the Northern Hemisphere this winter. Finland and Norway didn’t have snow at Christmas. This Summer is going to be bad. The ground will warm up FAST. No snow pack. No spring snow melt essential for lakes, rivers, ground water. It’s supposed to be 50 again here tomorrow. Global warming is real, I’ve always believed it and it just gets more and more obvious every year.

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    • MichiganMan says:

      Also forgot to add the lakes have not froze over and those frozen lakes moderate Michigan’s temperature in the springtime. They’ll start to heat up fast in Spring. Hell, probably before spring.

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  79. MelM. says:

    This long-rang forecast seems to be exactly opposite of what is happening here in the mid-west, we are having record high temps. not record lows.

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  80. @sebumsmassage says:

    Only GOD can predict the end date. what happens throughout history, it seems to me, its obvious that history repeats itself. The big issue here is that man is trying to play GOD. Informing us the exact date of the end.; impossible. GOD sends warnings before mass distractions. Man needs to give GOD total credit for his for-warnings, continue to update the universe by paying close attention to nature itself. So its either La Nina(cooling) or El Niño(global warming).

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    • geopatty says:

      The problem is that humans leave these issues to “god” to figure out and deal with. People need to take responsibility for themselves and not rely on a god to take care of them & their destiny. Humans have a choice to change, and maybe even reverse, the harm we are doing to the planet. But the problem is that humans as a whole think they are above everything, they are the top of the food chain. If we want to clear whole rain forests, or drive an animal to extinction or pollute our water supplies then we do it and don’t give even a second to ponder what may happen to other living things on this earth. I am NOT a tree-hugger, but I DO believe we should all take the big picture into consideration before we make the earth a place where we can’t or don’t want to live.

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  81. Kevin says:

    *Chuckles* Where would we be without all these brilliant forecasters and their crystal balls? The lower forty-eight states of the U.S. are actually having one of their mildest and least snowy Winters in recent memory.

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  82. wanda says:

    How about chemtrails & before you say,”Oh my God” another nut case,do your homework,Find out what is really going on….When is the last time you heard a bird sing? Can we say,Barium,aluminim,zinc,lead & tin?

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  83. rick says:

    I can’t wait till the Oceans Acidify and Hydrogen Sulfied is Emitted into the Atmosphere thanks to human beings that can’t see the forest for the trees, most are very un-educated about what’s happening. The planet is heating up and we are the cause, governments and corporations are doing their best to keep it from the public, because, of the money involved and we as a species don’t care yet, but you will soon enough so stop having children in a world that is falling apart it makes no sense at all.

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  84. dash says:

    This winter stinks it snows like 3 inches and then it melts. I’m trying to get money from shoveling snow but there is no snow to shovel. Worst winter ever. :(

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  85. Keith says:

    Guys, remember the REACTORS that blew up in JAPAN after the TSUNAMI? You see, the gases went into the air, and it is making the temperature WARMER Were are having a small nuclear winter. Remember what happened in Vermont? how they had a HUGE FLOOD? See? that was about a few months after the REACTORS in JAPAN blew up. Its not a coincidence. DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND? that is why the weather is all in a bunch, and you can’t argue that. Remember what happened in the 70′s in Vermont? exactly. This is real. This is WHY the weather is acting up.

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  86. geopatty says:

    I would like to weigh in here. First let me say, having the warmest winter since the 1990′s does not “prove” global warming is real. Second, I agree with previous posters, it needs to be called “Climate Change” rather than global warming. Over the history of the earth there have been many periods of warming and cooling. For all we know, our ancestors will be complaining about the giant ice sheet in their backyards in the next few thousand years. Lastly, while I do not doubt that humans have attributed green house gases to the earth’s atmosphere, the cycle of global warming and cooling cycles occurred BEFORE the industrial revolution happened and will continue to occur long after humans no longer inhabit the earth. Despite that fact though, I agree humans need to ween themselves off our dependence on oil and other limited natural resources for more than one reason, but that’s a whole other thread!

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